The Teen Who Escaped Helter Skelter | by H. Allegra Lansing - Medium Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. ANSWER: No. Whatever he knew,he took it with him.You get picked up hitchhiking and a day later your living in the guest house,starring at the hollywood sign.Must have really kept that pool clean.He saw the lifestyle of our hollywood elites.He knew not to talk too much. "I can't believe there was so much evil in one person," she said. Then three years later . QUESTION: And you had been so employed since approximately mid-March of 1969, through and including August the 9th, is that correct? If you live near any kind of mountain/valley situation, pay a visit and give it a go - it's quite surprising. Donna Jean never gets no love. Garretson wound up suing the city for false arrest, false imprisonment, invasion of privacy and violation of his Constitutional rights. William Garretson Biography, Age, Height, Wife, Net Worth, Family The canyon (where most of the people reporting sounds were located) spread out before and beneath the crime scene, as I'm sure you've seen in pics. QUESTION: I take it that he eventually left your guest house? Sadly, there's just not a lot out there to study. QUESTION: You hitchhiked down Sunset Boulevard, right? I mean, conversation with other people. Aaron Stovitz wins the one-liner of the day award. So that meant drawing as much suspicion on witnesses as possible {so as to make it seem either that they were lying, had done illicit deals with LE, had something to hide or create the possibility that not all of the actual killers were on trial}, ask irrelevant questions. Something like that. Billy died in 2016. MR. FITZGERALD: Objection, Your Honor, the answer is non-responsive. In a 1970 interview with the Columbus Citizen-Journal, William Garretson said he left Lancaster in the fall of 1968 and hitch-hiked to California. Both his aunt Glenna and her husband Bill got a college education during the Depression. Sometime after completing high school, Billy made the mistake of a lifetime when he hitchhiked from Ohio to Los Angeles. QUESTION: Did you also know some of the personnel who worked there? ANSWER: Im not sure. I don't think he'd hurt a fly.". QUESTION: You did not hear any shots or anything like that? I could not distinguish if he was barking any louder than he generally was any other night. QUESTION: So you did hear Christopher barking, isnt that correct? He was hired to work as the property caretaker, and lived in small one-bedroom guest house at the rear of the property, behind the pool. In another amazing blunder by police, the two bloody murders were originally deemed to be unrelated and were investigated by separate homicide teams. Sometimes I feel like William Eston Garretson Jr. is Charles Watson's ninth victim. MR. SHINN: Move to strike the last portion of his answer as not responsive. William Garretson was born on August 24, 1949 in Lancaster, Ohio, USA. Derr described her ex-husband, who died in 2016, as a very good, loving man, and cited those qualities as the reason she married him. I was sharing my experiences in SoCal canyon settings and relating them to the verbiage in the opening of the HS book and the police reports those comments were based on. I have a friend who is a flower wholesaler. ANSWER: No. Or maybe Lee Marvin. If this concerns you click read more. Possibly his tenth depending on how you feel about poor Mr. Stubbs. Cohen's is of course the best and then probably followed by Kaylee Rodgers from your own green island. Garretson was not the only central Ohio connection to Manson, who was a Cincinnati native and spent 1952 to 1954 in Chillicothe Correctional Institution. She was Billy's second wife. You might think Billy was from the sticks and in a way you're right but his hometown of Lancaster, Ohio, is also basically becoming a distant burb of the state capital these days. QUESTION: Did you normally have the windows open in the guest house? Btw, if you ever visit Lancaster, be sure to pronounce the city's name, "Lank-uh-stir." QUESTION: Did you hear any loud noises of any kind whatsoever? One morning, my friend's driver takes a leak in a staff bathroom attached to the massive kitchen at the front mansion when no one is around to ask. I do but didn't until I looked into his story. By using this site you agree to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. . QUESTION: Did you consider these dogs, bearing in mind your experience with them, as watchdogs of any sort? QUESTION: I show you Peoples 22 for identification. But spend a couple of minutes in Lancaster and you'll be like oh yeah okay I totally see it now. QUESTION: Just July and August, yes. Because of two minutes in a staff lavatory. Also from his polygraph interview;"and I was going to go back to Ohio in March, and I was picked up for Possession of Marijuana, and it was lowered to Visitation. QUESTION: Did you ever use the pool in the vicinity of the main house? QUESTION: Did you own a jacket at that time? I really could not say. Do you recog- QUESTION: Did you buy the radio from him? Every young person loves living at home after they become adults. Kids from Lancaster are tough. Garretson was the main suspect and there was a media blitz around his arrest. ANSWER: That he barked, I mean, generally, but I mean any night he would generally bark. He says he doesnt know the defendants. MR. BUGLIOSI: You may resume the witness stand, sir. Their son was born with a heart condition and he ended up dying after his third open-heart surgery. Before we get motoring, I want to assert that one indisputable truth in this whole big Charles Manson milieu is that the road is littered with children no one gave a shit about and often hurt. QUESTION: And you had a TV dinner in the other? After Parent gave Garretson a ride back to the estate, the young caretaker thanked him and invited Parent to stop by anytime he was in the area. QUESTION: Did you know anything at all about these murders? ANSWER: And then I would have to it is more to the right. I didn't have a car and as far as I remember the only buses were long distance Greyhounds. Single mother. QUESTION: You dont particularly recall this particular afternoon, is that right? The family resided there for several years, moving back to Smith County, Kansas, in 1933, to a farm in Pleasant Township. Frykowski needn't have been "screaming" as suggested to be heard down below. ANSWER: All the clocks were wound up. QUESTION: You testified on your direct examination I believe that the dogs used to bark when people would come to the residence. Luther became a minister shortly before he died at 33 years old. The only place I see Charlie living is Glenna and Uncle Bill's house, the 400 Caldwell address everyone always calls Manson's childhood home. I'm indeed the Donna Jean of the MB but know I'm gonna shine lol. ANSWER: You mean 7 or 8 around the pool or what? I didnt wind them up. QUESTION: Actually, it was your impression that Mr. Frykowski was, in fact, the younger brother of Roman Polanski, is that correct? Spouse. QUESTION: What one of the dogs was he, or which one of the dogs? For classmates and the ex-wife of William Garretson, a Lancaster native. Linda Lou Derr died at the end of July 2020. Charlie could be speaking of time with extended family when he's mentioning his hillbilly highlights just before this passage, but Kathleen had two sisters and a brother. William Garretson Archives - Deranged LA Crimes !Completely grossed out we finally bartered Justin's sad sack ass for 6 smokes! She was already a business college graduate and out in the work world. . Surely he felt like he escaped with his life. "William Eston Garretson (born August 24, 1949) was the caretaker of the Polanski residence at the time of Sharon Tate's murder by the Charles Manson "Family". QUESTION: I show you Peoples 19 for identification. They said the more recent murders of a grocery chain owner Leno La Bianca, 44, and his wife Rosemary, 37, were those of a psychotic cashing in on the publicity of the so-called Tate murders. Mind you, these people are rich for real, not your local busiest orthodontist who married a surgeon or whatever, or a ballplayer or singer. We were traveling with another band that supported us for the entire tour. There's also a chance she's passed. I'll take his mom's story at face value. Garretson, a 1967 Lancaster High graduate, was 19 years old and working as a caretaker at actress Sharon Tate's home at the time of her murder, along with six others. QUESTION: I show you Peoples 5 for identification, a photograph of a young boy and girl? QUESTION: You were carrying a carton of Coca-Cola in one hand? It wasnt very loud, you know. The other guy can f himself forever. Star - I like your two questions about Billy, btw. QUESTION: Did it appear to you when Christopher barked 2 or 3 hours after Steven Parent left that the dog was indicating to you that somebody had arrived on the premises? ANSWER: I told him to be quiet. "Uncle Bill had no teeth"Uncle Bill was an engineer on the B&O RR and in his early 40's at the oldest. ANSWER: Yes. He claimed the sucker was called "Rice or something like that." This was his final address. QUESTION: All right, from the guest house . QUESTION: Ok. Did you eventually fall asleep? ANSWER: They would start to barking well, it would take about 6 seconds before the visitor would come to the door. Serious Thinner and face eating bath salt zombies imagery. nize what that object is? THE COURT: I dont find anything inconsistent. These folks have a few homes on the property but this is the main one we're talking about. QUESTION: Would they normally bark when you had a visitor? I'm thinking about taking a road trip to Billy's grave this week, touching the headstone, and telling him I hope he's found some peace. He never should've gone out there. I can relate to your post, hearing "warsh" for "wash" lol. QUESTION: He actually owned the guest house? QUESTION: So this shows a portion of the guest house, is that correct? Just like Cielo. Just ask one. QUESTION: You were taking care of the dogs in his absence? With no psychological aftercare or anything else, Billy enjoyed a free redeye back Ohio that evening where the wife he married three weeks earlier waited. Let's move on to August 9th. This is not an unusual phenomena at all. Or maybe employers take nighttime poolside photos of their employees and I've just had shitty jobs. The little boy his mom called so gentle he wouldn't hunt or fish because he didn't want to hurt animals, and the best advocate that little boy ever had. He lived on the property, but somehow escaped the murderers. It was nothing, you know, to be alarmed about nothing or anything. QUESTION: Have you ever met anyone who said that they knew either one of these defendants? QUESTION: What was the weather like on the evening of the 8th, do you recall? Tony Montoya - Kill Me Again (1989) as Alan Swayzie There is a cement platform where you walk into the guest house. I submit to the Court that that impeaches his direct testimony and would seem to establish that the dogs he seemed on his direct examination to be unclear as to when he heard certain dogs barking. I dont know. May it be marked Peoples next in order? QUESTION: What is shown in that photograph? Billy studies business and is on the wrestling team but absent from the team photo. Doug - thank you. Ohioan William Garretson, 19-years old, was living at 10050 Cielo Drive in posh Benedict Canyon, Bel Air, in the summer of 1969. She's from the same general area down by the river, (Ironton) She even has a similar back story, was abandoned in a bar as a baby by her prostitute birth mom, raised by others, etc. It was a Friday night. Personally I thought she was most effective low in the mix. How much time passes before a yokel like Billy can cozy up to a mobbed-up guy like Rudi and have the skill set to make it stick? QUESTION: The next afternoon at approximately 4:25 in the afternoon, did you have a conversation with some police officers? ANSWER: I couldnt hear the other people, no. People may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. Billy is thirteen when his dad is indicted in Ohio Amish country for common deadbeatery. You are ordered to return Monday, Mr. Garretson. Were you on the couch at all during the night that you have been testifying about? The Garretsons - RootsWeb More:Local resident adds 'strange' details about gory Manson killing spree, More:From the archives: Mother thinks son couldn't be killer, More:From the archives: Garretson freed in LA, Charles Manson, one of nation's most infamous mass killers, dead at 83. I had the back door open on the patio by the stereo. Perhaps they were afraid they may have had to take care of Rudi's dogs if Bill wound up in jail.I have attempted to contact one girl that Bill was reported to have known in LA. QUESTION: And from 12:15 until 4:00, 4:30 or 5:00, you did what? Wrong Place, Wrong Time. The forgotten Manson Family victim - Medium I mean the main house. The pair were married for five years and had a son together, she said, adding that their son was born with a severe heart defect and died after his third open heart surgery. I went to the bedroom and got another phone and plugged it into the wall. QUESTION: All 3 dogs were inside the guest house that night, is that right? There was no GI Bill yet. Please don't stay forever angry, Mrs. Billy #1. !when they ask Billy during his polygraph if he ever had sex with a man, and Billy replies that he has, I notice that many researchers harmonize that statement with the blowjob taleActually, it's not researchers that do the harmonizing, it's Garretson himself. I mean, not the line, the phone was dead. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. In 1964 she met hairstylist Jay Sebring, who had recently separated from his wife. If you do not agree, please immediately exit the service. QUESTION: Lets stretch it and say Ireland is Europe. QUESTION: When you returned at approximately 10:00 pm, did you see anyone about the premises? Mr. Bugliosi suggested I approach the bench before I ask the impeaching question. QUESTION: You didnt find them to be barking any more night? This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. This could have had an impact on his duties at Cielo, especially if he had to do any time, and especially if Rudi Altobelli was still out of the country. QUESTION: Try to speak up a little more loudly, sir. Thank you for reading the results of my research today. I didn't catch Charlie in anything case-related but I was able to verify his unreliableness as a witness to myself in print. How and why were you staying up all night every night? If you haven't read the Bill (and one post labeled William) Garretson posts on the right, you should. And anyway where'd you hide? QUESTION: Did they bark any more than usual that night? You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. Ladies and gentlemen, do not converse among yourselves nor with anyone else on any subject relating to this case nor form or express any opinion regarding this case until it is finally submitted to you. Were you wearing a jacket? You might even have a story just like it to share with me in the comments. He says a young woman got in contact with him just before 2000 who claimed she was Sharon Tate's baby and her name was Rosie Polanski. But if he didn't, where was he? QUESTION: When you discovered that the line was dead, or it sounded dead when you put it to your ear, did you attempt to investigate the cause of the disorder? QUESTION: Did the dogs ever bark when the visitor was entering the gate of the Tate residence? Pete - Funny and succinct. I mean, the Porsche was out there, you know, usually sometimes at night, you know, and sometimes in the afternoon. What you wrote about the draft always picks at my brain. 11th Grade. Thanks for the time you spend crafting your pieces, GreenWhite, and may the ink in your pen never run dry. You can ask him if he said that, and let the jury decide whether it impeaches him or not. I heard voices but I could not tell where they were coming from. ANSWER: The only party that I remember is that they had a very large party in, I think it was June. starviego said:Interestingly, this is consistent with others who heard yelling/gunshots after 1amSo who, after 1am, heard dogs barking other than Emmett Steele {and don't forget, they were his own dogs !} QUESTION: And it winds around, doesnt it? How many Billy's are running around LA right now believing they're getting their big break except in reality they're being used and abused? I dunno if you're a god or bacterium I'm a shapeshifter you'll find me on Sandymount Strand contemplating the Ineluctable modality of the visible. ANSWER: Two weeks to a month before the incident. May it be marked Peoples 20 for identification? A couple thousand? Hearing that, lead defense attorney Paul (PJ) Fitzgerald shoots out of his chair like an ignited NASA rocket, calls time, and screams, "Heyo, most honorable dude, hold up a quick sec. It's possible one of Billy's wives was a cousin, no clue how distant yet, of Charles Manson. ANSWER: It was about medium. QUESTION: You say mid-March, you mean mid-March, 1969? How did you become his rent boy? Batter the accused from every possible angle. Okay, you got me. That is where I stayed the night. The larger dog. And then move into Cielo Drive (albeit the not air-conditioned guest house) with the property owner who also btw runs around town with Hollywood stars? John Garretson born 7 Jan 1757, married 22 Apr 1778 in Menallen to Tamar Hammond born 10 Sep 1759 7. ANSWER: He brought a radio with him, a clock radio, and he wanted to know if I would like to buy theone that he had, buy it or one that he could get, you know. QUESTION: Can you hear people swimming or anything? ANSWER: In mid-March until the incident occurred. They are brothers. Here's the proof.". Two quick reactions, one to the piece and one to a comment above . Where was Billy for those seven days after being released from jail? ANSWER: They are usually inside when they are barking. May it be marked Peoples 22 for identification? And also was not from Lancaster. Or even resemble it at times. ANSWER: I know their name by Tom and Dave. son. Bill Garretson, on the other hand, hears nothing of the scream from the guesthouse, even though he is but a few yards away. Police tried to hold onto him for as long as possible as they had absolutely no other leads and he was the only person found alive on the premises. QUESTION: Were these Mr. Altobellis dogs? First, I found her phone number from 2002 on Ancestry. Arguably, the aftershocks of August 8, 1969, killed him long before he died. To me, that's a coward.". However it may cause one to wonder why Bill set out for California with only $1.85 in his pocket if he sold the Camaro. QUESTION: You had it on about medium, is that correct? There has been nothing to suggest that Garretson's homosexual experiences extended any further than this. I lived in LA in 1969, in Leucadia and then in Orange County. QUESTION: Is the button near the telephone pole where I am pointing now? MR. BUGLIOSI: The reason I did not think it was impeaching is the witness said they did bark that night. 'Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark' Spoilers That Will Keep You up at Night, The Dysfunctional Roy Family in Succession Might've Been Inspired by These Real Families, Netflix's 'Resident Evil' Show Has Survival Horror Fans Seriously Excited. May it be marked Peoples 19 for identification? Sometimes he and Darrell double-dated and Garretson even let those two women (one Debbie T. and a Patty Montgomery) crash at the guesthouse"This hasn't got any dialogue with this Patty woman though Torque - Awesome idea reaching out to the pool friend. William Place. Garretson did not explain why he had withheld his knowledge of the events. They were more or less convinced that they had the person who committed the murders: me. Copyright 2023 Distractify. QUESTION: Now, there are 4 entrances to the guest house, correct? QUESTION: How did you get from the gate to the guest house, what route did you take? ANSWER: Yes, there is. The answer is stricken. QUESTION: You did not sleep at any time during the night? If you do not agree, please immediately exit the service. It's not a stretch to wonder if things he experienced during that period might help us better understand the goings on at Cielo prior to the murders. This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. "Welllll, when I was in a band that was touring through (mainly) Germanyduring the mid/late 90s we had pulled into a smaller town/village where we were going to play at an arts community co-operative type place. QUESTION: Did you have a conversation with some police officers? He later said that he had stayed up until the early morning hours listening to music until he passed out from exhaustion. 9:45 am Monday. QUESTION: In other words, you were hitchhiking? I tried to find her but was unsuccessful. If you can believe it, six people lived in my town when I was born. But there are lots of people hanging around with the answers. This is cross-examination. I'm calling bs on that one. I think maybe you are confusing your cognitions with some sort of notion about "the truth.". Then counter every possible defence angle, whether it be drugs, mental illness, coercion, alibi etc. Rest in peace, Billy. And over the years I've been following this blog we have had any number of inchoate, inarticulate and frequently obscene babblings which are best left uncommented. Billy and Wife #1 have a child while living at this address. He is not dating anyone. I suppose a lot of people have. Where was Billy for those seven days after being released from jail?IF Garretson was an informant, it might explain where he was in those seven days, as well as how he avoided the draft and how he escaped the dope charge in LA. Is that the stereo about which you were referring earlier in your testimony? William Garretson, who moved back to his home town of Lancaster, Ohio after his arrest, was called as a witness by and on behalf of the People of the State of California v. Charles Manson, and testified in the trial on July 26, 1970. Letting an older gay guy blow you hardly amounts to being gay oneself and certainly does not suggest that one is some kind of street hustler. Technology is all we have anymore if you think about it. QUESTION: On the evening or the early morning hours of August the 13th after Steven Parent left your residence, did you hear Christopher barking? The proof is shown but the bench is still all, "Haha no way fuck you, Fitzgerald. William A. Garretson, Jr., was born on June 29, 1927, in Long Beach, California, to Wm. Sarah Wickersham. QUESTION: What were your duties out there on the premises? I'd at least take the bus with some of my Camaro money. Why I shouldn't eat this or that, what about on Saturday though, basic stuff. THE COURT: Mr. Fitzgerald, we will adjourn at this time until Monday at 9:45 am. I have always believed that Garrettson travelled from Ohio to Los Angeles on a train. ANSWER: You had to push a button right before you get to the gate, it would be on the left side.
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