On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. In response to this announcement, the Great British Railways Transition Team is looking at changes to support the development of the new industry structure, and considering ways in which the current system can be simplified and improved. It looks like BR. its going to be at least 6 months before we even get a branding document, and IMO over 2 years before we get any new liveries or Humbrol paints. it remains to be seen if their just gonna bite the bullet and conform the entirety of rolling stock on the GBR network to a nice Blue and Cream livery. Correct. We need more national institutions to give a British shape to life, and GBR should be one of them. The new livery was used with the introduction of the Hastings Line electrification in 1986 to promote new electric trains on that line. Then theres the question of livery. The wholly superior vision of the Campaign for Equal Citizenship is long abandoned. One hallmark of the Governments approach to the constitutional struggle to hold the United Kingdom together has been a recognition that pro-Union policy is not simply a matter for a single department: it needs to run throughout the business of the State. RM CN0PKR - Britania 70000 in British Railways Livery at West Somerset Railway, Minehead, UK RM C1N4A7 - Totnes Littlehempston Station with Goods Vehicle in authentic 'British Railways' Livery, Totnes, Devon, England, United Kingdom RM ER5JCR - 46138 Royal Scot Class Steam Locomotive - British Railways L This idea often seems to pop its head up. English regions, Scotland, and Wales will have their own variants, but these will still emphasise the national nature of GBR. It highlighted different ways in which Westminster could invest in Britain's strategic transport network to better-integrate the nation. Coaches from different regions could also often find themselves coupled together and trains of 2 or 3 mixed liveries were not uncommon. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Lima class 47 D1574 British Rail Green Livery UNBOXED at the best online prices at eBay! At the formation of British Railways on 1 January 1948, early diesel and electric locos and the gas turbine locomotives 18000 and 18100 were already painted black with aluminium trim, but by the late 1950s this had been superseded by the same shade of green that was used on express passenger steam locomotives, although some locomotives were painted in a two-tone Brunswick and Sherwood green livery, and Southern Region electric locomotives were painted a light shade of malachite green. into flashy advertising campaigns, the appearance of the showrooms (and their digital counterpart, the website), and the styling of their vehicles? There'll no doubt be someone on here who knows, one way or the other. Avanti merged with LNWR to form a GNWR brand. Famous in York and up and down the East Coast Main Line, LNER could soon be consigned to history - again, YorkMix understands. Or do you think TfL should change their look away from using the current font simply because it's been that way since the 1930s or whenever? Japan had JNR (Japan National Railways) and now, post nationalisation, it has JR (Japan Railways). This was later modified for locomotives allocated to the Civil Engineer's department to include a yellow stripe on the upper bodyside, the resulting livery being known as "Dutch" due to its similarity to the corporate colours of the Nederlandse Spoorwegen.[18]. [8], Class 501 train in Rail Blue calls at Harrow and Wealdstone, Class 416 train in British Rail blue/grey livery calls at Dalston Kingsland station. It's only as complicated as you want it to be. Yes i like it, very clean and professional looking. However many people were not happy with the loss of the traditional "historic" regional colour schemes as used by the former private companies. Managed to get a look at a new proposed one: But my point is that DB have had the same basic livery for so long. The easiest way to guarantee readibility at night would be to use retroreflective coatings, like those used on road signs. Standing on the sidelines of national politics and shouting is just what capital-U Unionism does now. Within a period of 10 years, HSTs had three different liveries. I don't think there would ever be multiple logos for Great British Railways as you've alluded to - it would make it complicated for the end passenger. The old BR liveries look dated now and have done for a while. It will replace Network Rail as the operator of rail infrastructure across all of Great Britain (excluding some Valley Lines in Wales and some Merseyrail lines). You are using an out of date browser. Job done. Make the name central and it'd be perfect. And although BR did changes, it was still the same basic livery really. By 2020s Britain, I mean a design that is reflective of modern day marketing and branding. I am confident I could design a better package in a few hours, and I am not a design professional. No.47373 in revised Railfreight "red stripe" livery. In the early years the colour faded quite badly, becoming lighter and paler with time although this problem had been overcome by the late 1970s. [9][10] Several other Class 47 locomotives, some Class 31s, and even some DMU cabs, were subsequently also painted by Stratford with grey roofs, the variation becoming something of a trademark for the depot. Great Britain (or just Britain) is the mainland of England, Scotland and Wales. We use cookies. The 1948 trials brought LMS Class 5s, and GWR Kings and Castles in lined light green and lined blue, with incorrect suggestions that two different blues were used. I'm working on building a GBR brand from the ground up for the next few days (my calendar is completely empty), starting with a logo. The first Class 31 entered service in November . I could see those different types of logos being used across scenarios. A later version made minor changes to the livery, the main one of which was to darken the main shade of blue used. Consisting of three shades of grey and thus known as "triple grey Railfreight", the livery included logos on the sides and cabs of locomotives indicating which sector they belonged to. This livery was well received by enthusiasts but as the Class 56s only hauled freight, it was decided to extend the experiment to a passenger loco. The distinctive angular shape of the HST power cars did not lend itself to applying yellow on the leading face, so the yellow was wrapped around and extended along the side of each power car, although the coaches retained the usual Rail Blue coaching stock livery. Given the furious backlash over the Protocol, as well as the ill-managed disappointment that was the two parties 2010 link-up (under the awful acronym UCUNF), one can understand why Northern Irish politicians shy away from the Tories. One overarching brand, with sub brands sitting below it, for long distance services and regional brands all under the GBR moniker, much like we do today with Southern, South Eastern, South Western, Northern, etc. Rail alphabet had the advantage of being clear, legible and was pretty much consistently applied. The government has promised to base the organisation outside London to promote economic growth and skills in a region beyond the capital. They were numbered in two series, D5500-D5699 and D5800-D5862. A corporate livery was created for major express services in Scotland, which effectively consisted of the InterCity livery with the red stripe replaced by a light blue one. People are understandably sceptical about the frequent rebranding . particularly associated with the depots at Old Oak Common and As part of this work, the team engaged with industry through a formal call for evidence. | Page 15 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. [7], The reorganisation does not affect Northern Ireland, where the railway is already operated by the vertically integrated and already wholly state-owned Northern Ireland Railways. Construction of the first locomotive was completed in the final week of September 1957, and the handing-over took place on 31 October. The Great British Railways Transition Team (GBRTT) seeks to deliver the most ambitious changes to our railways in a generation, working with the government and across the rail sector. Great British Railways: The Williams-Shapps Plan for Rail (print version) Ref: ISBN 978-1-5286-2465-7 , CCS0321182446 05/21 , CP 423 PDF , 55.8 MB , 112 pages Order a copy Its not as if they need the advertising, nor do their brands carry the historic and emotional heft that the famous schemes of the genuinely private railways did. And again, there may be scope to take back control of this. Regional divisions will manage concession contracts, stations, infrastructure, and local and regional budgets, integrate track and train, and integrate rail with local transport services. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Great British Railways: Livery, branding and appearance? Then why was the old version called British Railways, not Great British Railways, and why the change now for the new version if British Railways worked . It does because it's public perception. JavaScript is disabled. It was formed from the nationalisation of the Big Four British railway companies, and was privatised in stages between 1994 and 1997. Finsbury Park. Although from the mid-1960s to the 1980s the organisation was associated with "Rail Blue", a number of other schemes were also used, especially when it was split into operating units or "sectors" in the mid-1980s. I don't think the red understripe would appear though, and there will still be calls from TfGM, WYCA TfWM, TfW, etc. Find out more Contact us Freedom of Information Jobs at GBRTT Media Sign up for GBRTT News Privacy and GDPR Terms and conditions A bit like this but without the fuzzy outline on the text and double arrow (caused by MS Paint's paint bucket tool): Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; I had a play around with this, and I agree, it looks. GBR will own all stations and most infrastructure in Great Britain. "Great" means "large", not "very good". I can only see negatives. It'll be operated quite differently. I personally like this Lion logo posted by Tim Dunn on twitter a few years ago. Brunswick Green. On the face of it, this is primarily a reorganisation of the franchise system in England control over passenger franchises in Scotland and Wales is, alas, devolved. Great Britain's railway system was built by private companies, but it was nationalised by the Transport Act 1947 and was run from then onwards by British Railways (which traded as British Rail from 1965) until privatisation, which was begun in 1994 and completed in 1997. Whatever its failings and they were multitude branding was one thing British Rail took seriously and was remarkably good at. And why call it G-BR if it's nothing like BR? Its rolling stock initially carried the standard Rail Blue (or blue and grey) livery but in 1992, it introduced a new livery of red and grey, with pale blue and grey flashes. I tried going with the National Rail icon in the right hand side, but it was too small and nobody would notice it. For 2mm/N equivalents, change the start of the reference number FRH4 for FRH2. Apple Green. The great livery might only look good on certain trains, while on others it looks rubbish. In all of your concepts the Rail Symbol (double-arrow) is far too large for the accompanying lettering, if you're looking to be guided by the original design rules. Class 52 No.D1015 restored to 1960's Western Region Maroon livery. You are using an out of date browser. Someone will design a great livery in the future and someone else will design a crap livery. I never knew I had OCD until that remark lol. GW 1 1 Great British Railways Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; Im unsure about the livery as such, but if Great British Railways is taken forward, Id expect GBR to feature. Read about the differences between Britain, the. Oct 22, 2021 All that remains, is to remember the man who made the Journey possible; the greatest engineer of all time and the architect who built modern Britain - Isambard Kingdom Brunel. The Great British Railway - and please, spare us the flag-waving - will incorporate Network Rail (renationalised in 2002 after privatised Railtrack collapsed), ticketing and awarding operator . The red stripe does work, very similar to what the Welsh are doing. The current lot is an absolute mess. All other brands (SE, Southern, Thameslink, SWR, GWR, TfW, Merseyrail, Overground, Crossrail, GA, c2c, Scotrail) remain as they are. The coaches for the XP64 train were painted in a slightly lighter version of what would eventually become Rail Blue, with a 44-inch-wide (1,100mm) Pale Ivory stripe centred on the passenger windows, and brown underframe. The standard livery for most British Railways steam locomotives was black, often with a thin red, cream and grey "lining" (trim), while express passenger locomotives were not painted "Brunswick Green" (Which was the former colour of the Great Western Railway) as is often stated, but were painted in British Standards: BS224 "Deep Bronze Green" also known as "Land Rover Deep Bronze Green LR001" with orange and black lining. The WilliamsShapps plan recommended that there will be a single, unifying brand for railways, and it is expected that this will be a gradual rebranding over time. The UK, Britain, Great Britain, The British Isles, England - what's the difference? The bottom one is basically Serco era Northern signage, and does look good to me, though I would go for a subtle double arrow in the bottom right as I said earlier, and omit the GBR text. Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread . Theres no vote in Northern Ireland for him or his Conservative party so he doesnt care, hes hands off.. I still think" Great British Railways" will be mostly likely be termed GBR, most of the time. I'm unsure about the livery as such, but if Great British Railways is taken forward, I'd expect 'GBR' to feature. 19th September, 2019. The special saloons and a few other special coaches were also repainted in chocolate and cream but regular former GWR coaches carried maroon. But the point is that effort has gone into developing a brand and what it stands for, it isn't just harking back to the awful 1970s, a time people seem to be seeing with a large pair of rose tinted spectacles. For example, the Midland Railway abolished Second-class on 1 st . The purpose of this call for evidence was to develop an understanding of how much of the current and future market demand for freight could be met by rail, and the role rail can play in the nations supply chains. From 1974, some DMU sets, after being refurbished, were painted white with a wide blue band under the windows and full yellow ends. The whole GBR thing is complicated as you have ScotRail and TfW already as separate brands that won't change, yet using "Rail England" or whatever is going to provoke outrage where services run by "English" operators go into Scotland and Wales (which rather ignores the same the other way round!). Except their is massive nostalgia for BR days. Clean, modern, easy to read, looks good and in the right colour set. The signs look good, if a bit bland and functional. In May 2022, the Government announced proposed legislation to modernise rail services and improve reliability for passengers. GBR is similar enough to channel some continuity with BR but distinct enough to admit it's a different entity. All HS2 and NPR services to be branded as Intercity Express. And other European countries cope with DB trains in France, SNCF trains in Germany etc. I suppose they are quite bland. Also, like I said, it's possible that they legally can't call it BR. 1948 -. Class 35 'Hymek' D7017 restored to 1960's green & lime livery. Upon sectorisation, most secondary passenger routes which did not fall under the InterCity or Network SouthEast banner were re-designated as Regional Railways (originally Provincial). From 1966 until withdrawal, Pullman Coaches were also painted in the reversal of the normal coach livery, with the blue and grey areas transposed. During 2020, in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic, all passenger train operating companies (TOCs) entered into Emergency Recovery Measures Agreements with the UK and Scottish Governments. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; I wanted to go for something modern yet flexible. Not too dissimilar to the old Northern logo arrangement. Not even all yellow fronted anymore. The train is operated by the Steam Dreams Rail Co. Mayflower built in 1948, is one of two surviving B1 Class locomotives and painted in distinctive British Railways apple green livery. Wrap yourself up in the flag and sing rule Brittania. I quite like that version; I think I might like it even more if the black and the red were blue instead though. I would rather that operations were branded similar to how they are now, but with a few changes compared with the existing TOC areas as follows: Chiltern Railways renamed as Chiltern & Oxbridge, with brand used on all planned EWR services in addition to those from London Marylebone. I think in Germany it is done by using the "TOC" name in place of IC etc. The livery was carried on the rolling stock, but also on a number of locomotives which were dedicated to mail and parcels traffic, mainly of Classes 47 and 90. Not everyone has a smartphone and when the PIS is not working, I find it good to know where we've stopped. In terms of signage, here's what I was working on this morning: Compared to the superb branding packages of TfW and ScotRail, it does not say "come use the railway, it's good", it says "we have spent the bare minimum, stick to your car". I can sort of understand lumping Moorgate services in with London Overground, but LNER to Kings Lynn has been suggested many times without any compelling reason as to why, beyond "something something intercity standard", This idea often seems to pop its head up. If you run across land borders you're going to get it. Variants where the band was blue (outer suburban) or green (inner suburban) instead of orange were planned, but never implemented.[15]. Non-corridor coaching stock and other multiple units received all-over Rail Blue until about 1980, when most received the same blue/grey livery as corridor coaching stock. It does look better than red. This includes transport, with the first Union Connectivity Review being published earlier this year. But we know that anyway - ScotRail is blue based, as was Regional Railways. The old Northern signs worked well, but only Metro/WYCA really got behind the co-branding opportunities, that I saw. From July 1956 the Southern Region began using a 'coaching stock' green that was somewhat darker than the malachite green colour of the old Southern Railway and this extended to former Southern vehicles as well as Mk1 stock. Great Britain is not a country; its a landmass. This long term strategy for rail will be a landmark resource, enabling a clear and agreed direction for the railway. Great British Railways marks a new era in the history of our railways. Originally running from 1923 until 1948 when it became British Railway, LNER returned to the route of famous for the Flying Scotsman in 2018 when the . the report stated that there would be some update to the double arrow, though not what that update would be. The Great British Railways Transition Team is developing a range of rail freight growth target options. Great British Railways ( GBR) is a planned state-owned public body that will oversee rail transport in Great Britain, [1] with the exception of Transport for London and Merseytravel services, and light rail and trams elsewhere in England. The concession contract system will be the long-term replacement for the previous system of passenger rail franchising run by the Department for Transport, which became unsustainable early in 2020 during the COVID-19 pandemic. For example, GWRs London to Bristol, Penzance, Cardiff, Oxford etc might be wrapped up with a GBR Express or GBR Intercity, but the GWR commuter/regional services under a different brand name. A later version added a red stripe along the lower edge of the locomotive bodyside. With the publication of the Williams review and the announcement of the renationalization of British Passenger Rail, i thought i might help out anyone exited for new liveries or branding for trains. In 1978 the British Railways Board began planning a new livery for the future, and in that August Class 56 diesel locomotive 56036 was painted to test a modified livery[11][12] of all-over Rail Blue with the entire loco front in bright yellow to improve visibility, this extending down the sides of the loco to the rear of the cab windows which were, in turn, outlined in black. There is also a British Standard paint colour BS381C 114 called Rail Blue which was introduced in 1964. If it was, that format would not be used by: If you need any proof, they've also just done the same with 'Great British Nuclear'. A High Speed Train power car (loco) and coach in InterCity swallow livery. The devolved administrations, the combined authorities, and the Greater London Authority will continue to exercise their current powers, such as setting fares and awarding contracts, and will remain democratically accountable for this. This has been confirmed by records held at the National Railway Museum. It's not going to be called Rail England and if it was, there'd be nothing "Queen Nicola" could do about it. It may not display this or other websites correctly. It might have the operator identified in a small way too. The BR that believed in having multiple liveries and brands? Why not capitalize on it? It appears that while the plan is to brand all trains under GBR with one branding, that plan involves a much longer time scale: People are understandably sceptical about the frequent rebranding of trains and stations carried out under the privatised system, so the branding will be introduced alongside other improvements. Home Forums For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Now there's a system others can look up to. Infrastructure, passenger, and freight services were separated at that time. Rail Express Systems was the sector of British Rail responsible for transport of mail and parcels traffic. In the days of signs being hand painted/stencilled on enamel I would agree, but it is so much easier to make stuff look good these days that there is really no excuse for this sort of thing. Withdrawn 01001 is just visible at the rear. [16] A public vote was held following the announcement.[16]. After this time small variations in the Rail Blue livery became much more common. It's already been seen with the government controlled LNER and GWR franchises for example. Here is some variants of my original 'swallow inspired' design. [3] Goods (freight) services are operated by a number of companies, the descendants of those created during the 1990s privatisation. The text won't be centred vertically with the logo. This is "straight out of 1975": I'm inclined to disagree there. Likes Received: 1,930. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; And although BR did changes, it was still the same basic livery really. It does affect other devolved rail operators, including ScotRail, Transport for Wales, London Overground, Elizabeth line (Crossrail), and Merseyrail, as well as the combined authorities that oversee other local railway networks in England. The double arrow is still overused, though. JavaScript is disabled. At present, train operators get to decorate their rolling stock in their own colours. The FT reports: The reforms will still allow private companies to run services but they will instead work under a more prescriptive management contract, similar to the system in place on the London Overground.. 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