The photo, which was recovered from Libertys cellphone, showed a man who authorities said was walking on the Delphi Historic Trails and might have participated in the murders, according to a news release. Another chilling detail recovered from Libertys phone emerged about a week after the girls were found a recording of what might have been the killers voice. ISP's tip line related to the case will remain open so the public can share information about the suspect or others possibly involved in the case. Were not doing that anymore. Precisely how they were killed has never been revealed by police. We have no idea. Which brings me to the question, why not donate to our enterprise here? This is an article with a description of the search - and pictures taken during the search (the day murder victims Abby and Libby were found). Anyone remember that letter and who that search coordinator was? Grays videos run to 3-4 hours and may contain five minutes of useful material if you are lucky during that time. Diamond Bynum and King Walker, look that up one day. At least, assuming the Mr. X stuff is confirmed. With the mystery surrounding this case, people have begun to speculate whether or not certain convicted criminals whose names make the news are actually tied to the Delphi murders. Of course he knew who they were. Ive heard that when a killer feels something for his victim, hes more likely to care for the body, for example, wrap it in a blanket to protect it from the elements, etc. Unless she time traveled back to 2015-16 but maintained her age, th our math would make her 16 in 2017. A special needs woman and a toddler? He wore layers because he was living largely outside. Am I expecting too much? Ok, thats so crazy that its almost impossible to believe its true. VERY strange indeed. Please correct me if you know otherwise. Officials did not discuss the timeline of events or evidence that led to Allens arrest, saying only that a judge determined that there was probable cause. I mean, surely folks would know if a well-known, local who became a POI was in on the search? "That's just a common thing to freak out about like, [why]; you know what I mean?" (http://www.pharostribune.com/news/local_news/article_031b521c-f2e3-11e6-a249-a77587cb24f9.html). Local LE may cover for Mr X (awful) but would the FBI? Moments after multiple law enforcement agencies announced the arrest of Richard Allen, 50, in the 2017 killings of Delphi teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams, the grandparents of one of the girls spoke of how their lives have turned a page. The FBI also announced that it is utilizing approximately 6,000 electronic billboards in 46 states to solicit information on the case. Kline, 27, has never been named publicly as a suspect in the Delphi murders, but he's alleged to have been in contact with Libby, 14, the night before she was killed, police documents show. The next day, Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found murdered allegedly by the unidentified man Libby. 4 things we learned about arrest in deaths of Liberty German and Abigail Williams, What we know and don't know 5 years after Abby and Libby were killed, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. Im not sure about that. To this day they haven't been found. I think this is one of the essential clues in both cases. "Secrecy of judicial action can only breed ignorance and distrust of courts and suspicion concerning the competence and impartiality of judges, attorneys for the media wrote, citing a Nebraska case. Most compelling is the tattoo of what is clearly Libbys face with two bones and a skull framing it. Second thing to consider, From what I understand (per the Prosecutors podcast on the Delphi Murders from a few months ago, which isnt entirely accurate but better than most) they called the official search party off at 11pm or midnight. I theorize that after release from prison he was itinerant and carried a gun for protection. We would love to hear your thoughts on him and why or why not he might be a suspect in the Delphi murders. This makes me think of the dolls and stuffed animal left at the scene. But get this. A RELATIVE of a suspect in the Delphi murders was taken into custody earlier this month as investigators concluded a weeks-long search in a local river potentially linked to the unsolved case. He is a middle-aged man who has thick hair and a baby face and dresses like a teenager. A very popular one is the observation that if the crime scene was this insane, it would have leaked out by now. Yeah, I can do a post, but in the post Im going to say hes not it because hes not BG. The time will come when additional details can be released, but again today is not that day, Indiana State Police Superintendent Douglas Carter said. Or a twisted kind of guilt or compassion for the girls? The police didn't take them seriously at the very beginning. They had embarked on an afternoon hike the day before their discovery. Yes, thats one thing I am not sure about. Becky Patty reflected on the importance of Monday's announcement, speaking steadily and calmly, telling reporters she had envisioned a different reaction. DELPHI, Ind. In the audio, police announced, a male voice appears to say Down the hill. Officials offered a download of the audio and asked anyone who recognized the voice to send in a tip. Could you imagine, all the accomplices connected? DELPHI, Ind. The search along the Wabash began around August 19, when investigators were seen combing through the shallow waters with metal detectors and scuba gear. Police announced on Monday that a suspect has been arrested in the killings of two teenagers that rocked a small town in Indiana more than five years ago. New information about the murders of Delphi eighth graders Liberty German and Abigail Williams became public Monday, and police have a man in custody. If not and it is him, did he know who THEY were? Rachel Fradette is a general assignment reporter at IndyStar. The search continued Tuesday morning, Valentine's Day, along the trails and the creek. A massive law enforcement presence arrives, and a double murder investigation begins . And the new one we just talked to is saying that she was told not to tell anyone, but the scene was bugging and eating away at her so much that she just had to spill finally. Otherwise I think there is some hammer that comes down and hits the pig in the head. The Murder Sheet Podcastwas first to publish the transcript of an Indiana State Police interview with Kline, where he admitted having contact with Libby German and suggested police had told him he failed a polygraph test about the murders. Also and this constantly nags at me, if LE really has one person, Mr X, in mind but just cannot resolve his alibi, wouldnt that name get around in a small town? Almost yours: 2 weeks, on us 100+ live channels are waiting. Your email address will not be published. Liberty, who went by Libby, and Abigail, who went by Abby, went for a hike along the Monon High Bridge on Feb. 13, 2017. State police have refused to disclose what they were searching for or may have found; however, it's believed the extensive operation is connected to Trexler's cousin, Kegan Kline. A search party was formed and volunteers and police searched the wooded area surrounding the bridge until slightly after midnight when the search was called off. How many individuals were involved in the initial search? Recently in the People Magazine Investigates episode on Delphi, Carter says People need to let us handle this case, let what we saw that day eat away at us like it does. They saw something horrendous that day. He was also charged with similar offenses in November 2021 - a pending case at the time of his arrest earlier this month. What do we do next. Trexler has prior DUI infractions to his name, police records show. Reach Ron Wilkins at rwilkins@jconline.com. Allen pleaded not guilty in a preliminary hearing, Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said in a news conference Monday. Either LE or coroner: It was all over by 3:30 PM.. -- There may be a potential break in the unsolved murders of two teenage girls in Delphi, Indiana. Based on his posts, he does appear to have some animosity towards young women, and he is an oversharer. He took his wife with him. Contact her at rfradette@indystar.com or follow her on Twitter at @Rachel_Fradette. Well, to answer your question, Mr. X was at that 2019 press conference wearing the exact same hat that BG wears in that film. He makes public posts that he would, and has before beaten up men who prey on kids. This is apparently all correct! Doug Carter, superintendent of the Indiana State Police, announced Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi has been charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of Libby and Abby. Id assume the kind that is foggy? He said hes hiding in plain sight," Patty said. That is very interesting. I will agree with SPM1 who seemed to say that there was a stuffed animal toy at the scene that was so large that BG could not have been carrying it with him on the bridge. Abby Williams, 13, and Liberty "Libby" German, 14, had gone for a. DELPHI, Ind. The killings of teens Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in February 2017 have . They try to walk it back in more recent interviews but you can see it on their face. Our understanding also is that he never even called her to have her bring the keys. that they must witness throughout their careers and how extremely difficult it must be to deal with. I myself have short lower legs and a long thigh area, so I noticed this right away. DELPHI, Ind. He has been hiding in plain sight, posting his artwork and cryptic statements on FB, etc. Delphi has a park dedicated to the teens, called the Abby and Libby Memorial Park, honoring their love for sports and the outdoors. The motive is likely to be a lot sicker than that. The big stuffed animal and all of the dolls would haunt me to the point that I would eventually have to tell someone. Perhaps its a violation of social rules, but thats not in the DSM yet. Where are those people? They may have if they'd known the girls had been killed, but remember that until they found the bodies the worst they were prepared for was finding the girls badly injured or dead from exposure. . "But the arrest on two counts of murder is sure a major step in leading to a conclusion in the long-term and complex investigation.". To me, he seems very stupid and immature, and I guess I want to believe the BG is some highly intelligent criminal mastermind to do something so awful and then evade capture for so long. We cannot publicly convict someone based on a single document which was not released by investigators. And you guys have not given up on us. "If it is related, whatever they're looking for, I hope it comes sooner rather than later. Authorities said that Richard M. Allen, 50, of Delphi, Ind., was taken into custody last week and charged with two counts of murder Friday in the killings of Liberty German, 14, and Abigail. The two girls had gone for a walk on an old railroad bridge along Monon High Bridge trail near Delphi, Indiana, on February 13, 2017, when they were murdered. allege he killed Libby German and Abby Williams, Review the case through 5 years of reporting, Indiana town wants answers about man who 'blended in', Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. "Its somewhat bittersweet," Mike Patty, grandfather of Libby, told reporters Monday gathered at the DelphiUnited Methodist Church, "knowing it allows us to move to the next turn, the next chapter. It is not a a palette knife, I know that much. "I dont feel like I thought I would. As usual, they do not want to be identified, but I can tell you that once again, we are dealing with a female member of the party, in this case younger than middle aged. - Stunning new documents describe the scene where two young girls were murdered in Delphi, Indiana, five years ago. Great Summary! Typically most defendants charged with murder do not receive bond. Allen, 50, was charged on two counts of. February 24, 2017 "As Doug Carter said that earlier, if you recall. A public court hearing will be set to determine if the documents, including the affidavit in the case, will remain under seal. "Weve still got, now weve got a big mountain ahead of us. Investigators were seeking a judges permission to search the propertyof Ronald Logan, who owned the land where the two girls were found dead. The main suspect and the CSI guy. omygosh what a shame! The two SPMs both reporting that there were stuffed animals plural instead of singular seems sufficient to prove that there was more than one stuffed animal at the scene. I sure would like to know more about this. Lilly caps cost of insulin at $35 a month, bringing relief for Hoosiers, Paramount Englewood exceeding diversity, academic norms, Marion County Traffic Court closing in May, IMPD releases bodycam footage of January shooting involving 3 officers. Carroll County prosecutor Nick McLeland give update on the Delphi murders. ", Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. If thats the case, wouldnt you think they would have been noticed the first day during the search? She said police hadn't contacted her about the search but had been for other significant developments. Greenos videos are almost completely worthless, and group members who have spoken to him told me he has nothing new to add to the case. DELPHI, Ind. He certainly didnt sound suicidal in his retirement announcement from Monticello in Nov 2019. Allen, who has entered a preliminary plea of not guilty, will appear in court on Jan. 13 for a pre-trial hearing. The FBI agent does say Logans voice is not inconsistent with that of the person in the video.. Nice guy! In Indiana, most defendants are entitled to a reasonable bail that is high enough to ensure the defendant's appearance in court, according to Indiana law. Only a few seconds have been made public. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. On a day off from school Monday, Feb. 13, 2017, the teens Liberty, 14, and Abigail, 13 embarked on a hike after a sleepover the night before at Libby's house. Discovery: February 14, 2017 Thanks for your work and your blog. The 38-year-old was arrested in September 2015 on a warrant for operating a vehicle while intoxicated and driving while intoxicated with a controlled substance. Clear as day. But werent the FBI involved from the start? Very interesting. You have a million people who come out and say OMG THERES JUST NO WAY A BIG STUFFED BEAR WAS LEFT AT THE CRIME SCENE ABSOLUTELY NOT. But even if LE told the searchers not to tell people what they saw that day, Im sure they can at least say whether or not something for sure wasnt there. The investigation is ongoing and open, various authorities reiterated during the news conference. Looking at Facebook posts from 2017, its clear that he had reddish hair then and that it could appear curly when short. Suspicious as Hell if you ask me. Its nice to have a serious conversation without people chiming in with what if BG is a woman? (one thing I actually read this week) and other absurd speculation. The investigation is far from complete, Carter said new details and documents will not be released until deemed appropriate in the process. We share similar philosophies. What strikes me about this rumor regarding the dolls at the crime scene is that it was mentioned in the leaked Erskine texts that Abby was found placed on the ground like a doll I always wondered why Erskine would describe it like that. Speculation has mounted that Kline may be working on a plea deal with prosecutors, though it's still unknown if the search is related to his child porn case or the Delphi murders. Also who said this crime was over quickly? He was in the area because he liked rail bridges, had endless hours to wander, and perhaps was hoping for an opportunity to grab a young girl. Breaks my heart that the family had to try so hard to get help. I too wondered about foul play. Multiple sources indicate that a man named Richard Allen was booked into the Carroll County Jail Friday in connection with the Delphi murder investigation. It's unusual, infrequent to seal those documents, McLeland said but he felt it was necessary because of the extra scrutiny tied to the killings. Libby's grandfather did not want the media to move on from this day. Would that indicate they (Abby and Libby) were put there after the search was called off? Delphi Murders Delphi Murders Timeline: Disappearance, Years-Long Manhunt and the Possible Break Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the afternoon of Feb. 13, 2017. A number of those slaughterhouses around there are indeed operated by Orthodox Jews. "It could potentially have nothing to do with the girls at all, and that's the sickening thing about it all, that it gets all this talk, but it may have nothing to do with them, and then I get myself all upset over nothing. One reason this particular homicide case came to national attention is the haunting cell phone and social-media clues the girls left behind. I would like to remind the public that this is an active and ongoing investigation, and we will do everything we can to protect its integrity and to not try it in the court of public opinion. From the very beginning, I felt that the perp(s) is/are local, and that they knew the girls through the friends and family circles. The Indiana detectives investigating the 2017 Delphi murders claimed on Thursday to have new leads in the case and warned their suspect that they know who he is - but are yet to make any. He seemed quite toned down and purposely mellow in his critique of single women. Five years ago today, in Delphi, Ind., two best friends, Abigail Williams, 13, and Liberty German, 14, went missing while on a hike through the city's . Until his arrest last week on two counts of first-degree murder, Allen, 50, had no prior criminal record. Theres a part where the helicopter flies over the crime scene and some people worked forever on that and somehow got some pics out of it. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. An attorney listed for Trexler has not yet responded to a request for comment. Apparently that was enough to shut up most of the SPMs. So that seems proven too. Didnt know, I dont know the gentleman personally at all. A grifter is literally a criminal fraudster and he is breaking the law. ", The detective then asked: "So why would you worry about your DNA being on that body? Yeah thats not our information. So this implies that the two men were alone with each other, surely. Breaks my heart that the family had to try so hard to get help. There were no stuffed animals in trees. Allen is being held at the White County jail without bond and has hearing dates scheduled for January and March 2023. We must trust their sources and investigative techniques. Our goal is to find anybody else involved in this heinous crime. So does a youth, so does the fairest maid Romeo and Juliet (1968) . Also the point about girls being dumped in places frequented by hunters. Yes it is very important that there is a Tyson plant nearby in both of the crimes. Libby was 14 when she was murdered in 2017. Ive seen some criticism of your stuffed bear theory, and I personally think its nuts, but if that image is realIf it is real, what do think the motive was? Indiana State Police plan a Monday morning news conference to update the investigation of the Delphi murders and who might have killed Libby German and . What's the procedure when bodies are located? As for McLeland's concern for the safety of the witnesses, Rozzi said, I havent heard, nor have I seen in the evidence presented, any actionable threats.. I will have to look it up again. I keep seeing people say it was a sunken bowl surrounded by a circle of trees. Kind of odd that the most descriptive mentions point out a circle of trees. I dont think he does. Here in Gary, about two years ago, a special needs woman and a toddler she lived with went missing. The suspect was not someone the families knew, Mike Patty said. "That is accurate," Becky Patty said. in which I've ever, thankfully, have had to witness anything so utterly horrible. Rozzi rhetorically asked. Gray makes over $100,000/year from his podcasts, which is fine by me. The pre-hearing courtroom chatter grew quiet as deputies led Allen into the courtroom from a back door. The Delphi Murder Tip Line was routed to the FBI's Major Case Contract Center in Washington, D.C because of the sheer number of calls they were receiving. Thank you. Theres nothing pathological about oversharing. It seems odd. The original female search party member (SPM1) also spoke independently with another member of my team, a woman. The revelations come just two weeks after authorities released a redacted version of the probable cause affidavit that led to Richard Allen's arrest. There were dolls hanging from trees. If you have any information on the Delphi murders, contact law enforcement at 1-800-225-5324 or Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. 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