Later in Pauls ministry, however, he writes that Demas ended up loving the present world more than the things of God and walked away (2 Tim. As I listened to them walking through their journeys I was surprised to see that we have covered much of the same terrain. And furthermore, who wants to embrace uncertainty? Francis Schaeffer once wrote about the fact that Christians need to have such a commitment to the truth that if it were proven to be false we would be the first to get out of line and join the rest of the world in their destruction. Contents 1 The Early Years 2 Career 3 Personal Life 4 Kids 5 Appearances 6 What Link Neal Doesn't Like 7 What Link Neal Does Like 8 Trivia 9 References or that could they even still call I hope in the future they will explore that question a bit more, as well as their differing orientations toward hopefulness for the future of our species. I'm super disappointed but also not surprised. Spotify have songs removed so you will buy them. Because of his feelings. They acknowledge that Christianity means something. Is Apologetics Helpful or Necessary in Evangelism? They were getting tired of doing GMM. Watch the rest of their discussion in the video above, and read Goins-Phillips story on Rhett and Link here. Mythical, founded by Rhett & Link, creates entertainment, products, and experiences that inspire human connection through curiosity and comedy. This brings us to the salient question. They understand if you cease to believe in core tenets of the faithlike sin, the atonement, the resurrection of Jesus, and the reality of heaven and hellthen you shouldnt still identify as a Christian. Then the format changed. Listening to their podcast you hear the I had been pulling on this thread for a really long timeLets call it the sweater of faithI had been pulling on this thread until it had sort of turned into a vestand then a midriffand then a halter tapand now it was a string bikini. Our media fueled siloed communities dividing us in politics, religion, race, culture, and various interests meant I was totally oblivious to Rhett & Link despite their being YouTube comedy sensations with nearly 17 million subscribers. Much of their appeal comes from their history together. She's been showing up less and less on the main series so I've suspected for a . I cant help but notice the similarities. He occasionally sends judgments to earth to remind us of this. What am I gonna teach them now? No one that I was in personal contact withpastors, Christian friends, elders in the churchnone of them disappointed me or let me down. My understanding of who Jesus is is not just based on my experience with him personally, but its also based on what the Bible has to say about him. I hope youll take the time to watch/listen to the show for yourself, along with the follow-up episode in which Link tells his own story about how he left his faith behind after he became an adult. It didnt take long before quickly discovering these two were not some boys who got saved at some church youth camp alter call and then used their new found Christianity merely as a buttress against sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll after that. The truth is that we have a personality-driven culture in which two comedians can persuade Christians to rethink their faith in just three hours of video. How can two guys who make a living as YouTube personalities go from making possum corndogs one day to throwing 2,000 years of Christian history under the bus the next? Rhett even invokes the Apostle Peters response to Jesus when Jesus asks if he will leave him to which Peter responds, Where would I go?. While their degrees and first jobs were in engineering, funny video production ultimately became their claim to fame. And it gives you community. Scarlett had befriended the very people who had destroyed the South. A former church elder with a seminary education, Neil now writes mostly about the struggles of former evangelicals living in the midst of a highly religious subculture. I might get a new episode once a week if I was lucky. I found myself identifying with them a lot through experiences from our very similar pasts. Why? (Hold up, before anyone gets upset because I called Rhett and Link non-Christians, and am therefore judging them, these are their words. Why We Should Not Redeem Deconstruction, Before You Lose Your Faith: Deconstruction and the Church, Why Progressive Christianity Cant Bring Reformation, Jen Hatmaker and the Made-to-Order Gospel. The two men, known for their daily Good Mythical Morningbroadcast, have, over the last few years, gone through what they have described as their spiritual deconstruction[s]. After having spent years in young adult ministry, Rhett and Link now call themselves hopeful agnostics.. Try the whole world. As much as I felt undying love for Ricky Schroder, I knew little about him. Rhett and Melanie eat:" {Mammy} could distinguish nothing except the clatter of silver on china, and the muffled soft tones of Melanie's voice." Rhett then goes to bed. Lover of beans. And, every time Rhett said, I know you are going to say _____________, I was thinking, Yeah, thats exactly what Id say.. before can enthusiastically answer, YES, Jesus never answered the thief on the cross who asked Christ to remember him when he came into his Kingdom with, This Day youll be with me in Paradisejust so long as you also believe the world was created in six days. Should Christian Parents Send Their Children to Public Schools? Heres the deal, we (at SWO) have gone back and forth on whether or not to address this. And soon discovered some of these other traditions had different perspectives on some of the issues that often trigger Evangelical spiritual deconstruction: I came to realise the Evangelical aisle of the supermarket is a wonderful aisle in the supermarket but it aint the only aisleas much as they often like to claim it is. The lesson we can learn from the Rhett and Link story is to observe the power of the media platform, recognize the roadblocks of the new apostles of unbelief, and keep a humble eye to history, remembering that our Savior told us some would fall away. For example, in 2016, they worked on a scripted television show called Rhett & Link's Buddy System that saw the pair act in a bid to entertain their viewers. As part of their healing process, they are all told to declare to the world their reasons for why being a Christian is wrong. But as both Rhett and Link recounted, there was something brewing underneath the intellectual questions. The best chance I had of communicating with him was writing a letter to his fan club. And, in reality, hes not living that way either. After having spent years in young adult ministry, Rhett and Link now call themselves "hopeful agnostics." Their shift away from Christianity, though, raises quite a few red flags, especially given so much of it seems to hinge on their own experiences and desire to embrace the LGBTQ community. I couldnt check his Instagram for updates every hour or tweet at him with the real possibility he might tweet back. Who will separate us from the Love of Christ? Postman posited that in the future, we would be oppressed not by an outside force like Big Brother in George Orwells dystopian novel, people will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities to think,, He predicted that with the rise of technology and communication, people wouldnt be deprived of information, but rather they would be given, that they would become passive and egocentric. Several people reached out to me personally, including pastors who reported that the faith of several kids in their youth groups was rocked by the broadcasts, leaving them shaken and doubting. This implies that they are, in fact, deceiving people. I could barely stay in my car seat listening to Rhetts story. Over the course of a few days, social-media newsfeeds became inundated with hot takes, responses, disagreements, and praise for the comedy duo. I love it. But that is no way to live. Rhett said, If I dont have to believe [Christianity], then why would I? Link expressed, Why was I working so hard to make Christianity work for me if it wasnt even true? Aside from encountering intellectual stumbling blocks, it seems that, to YouTubes favorite pair, the gospel had begun to stink. This implies that they are, in fact, deceiving people. It was a relationship. While God is love, we must remember that Hes also just and holy. I imagine those types of responses will continue to roll in. It morphed into doubts surrounding biblical reliability, the historicity of the resurrection, and the general idea of hell and judgment. Rhett and Link grew up as evangelical Christiansand worked extensively with Christian organizations in the past, including working for Campus Crusade for Christand playing the Fabulous Bentley Brothers for a children's Bible education series on Jelly Telly. This was my LIFE. I remember my former Christian marriage therapist asking me point blank: What are you getting from this? Secondly, I have been preparing to teach John 6 where Jesus says in several ways that God draws people to Jesus, He saves them, and He doesnt lose any of them. Rhett led off with his intellectual doubts and Link countered with an emotional appeal. Charles Lincoln "Link" Neal III is an American actor, writer, singer/songwriter known for being the comedy duo "Rhett & Link." Neal is also known for being the co-creator and co-host of Good Mythical Morning (2012) along with several other projects such as Commerical Kings (2011), The Mythical Show (2013), and Rhett and Link's Buddy System (2016 . Rhett and Link Controversy and Deconstruction Over the years, we learned that YouTubers Rhett and Link had been on staff with Cru, served as missionaries, led Bible studies, and worked with campus ministries. When the teenage years come and the questions and pushing the boundaries begin most churches are ill-equipped to handle it. When he jumped the Christian ship, he didnt jump into another boat, but into a sea of uncertainty. His Christianity has been replaced with what he calls openness and curiosity. He describes how liberating its been to let go of the appetite for certainty. To the careful observer, its evident that Rhett has traded in one worldview for another: Christianity for postmodernity, with all its skepticism, denial of absolutes, and relativism. No, we are the ones who learn to accept that on our best day, were still mostly grasping at straws. I didnt want to believe thisI didnt want to leave this thing. Please have your Passports Ready. What about the rest of the world? And the question that Ive gotten from some people who are close to me, who love me. Commercial Kings: With Rhett McLaughlin, Link Neal, Shayne Pax, Brandon Taylor. The comment sections of their, pages reveal that their stories inspired many atheists and touched the hearts of some folks who experienced similar deconversion journeys, describing the videos as beautiful, candid, and vulnerable.. Its no wonder, then, that every time we turn around there is yet another, Rhett and Link have grown their brand performing hilarious satirical songs and engaging in zany stunts such as duct-taping themselves together, playing wedgie-hangman, crushing glow sticks in a meat-grinder, and flinging bags of dog feces at one anothers faces. 2. They were also Christians, former missionaries, and Campus Crusade (now, When they each recorded videos walking fans through their spiritual-deconstruction stories in February, it shot through the internet like a bolt of lightning. ). I never got a reply. How can two guys who make a living as YouTube personalities go from making possum corndogs one day to throwing 2,000 years of Christian history under the bus the next? And I want to say that because Ive noticed that when I tell my story, often people kind of conclude that I was never a true Christian. As an evangelical Christian, you learn to tackle controversial subjects by reading only books by other evangelicals as they talk through their own rationalizations for their beliefs. Remember that even John the Baptist had a little crisis and needed to be reassured (Matthew 11:1-11). He was the only one for me. With guest appearances on The TODAY Show, Live with Kelly, and The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon, their stars have been rising for the past few years, swelling their net worth to an estimated $23 million. And deal with them now, but dont exchange Christianity with doubts for an empty belief system made solely of doubts. We were in conversation. You need a context in which to deal with the doubts. Lauren Boebert And Marjorie Greene's Adult Christianity Was Never About Democracy, Anyway. By Dawson Gaillard FOR about some the reason seasoned, as I aged sat in bricks a French dating Quarter back to patio the musing 1700's, about the seasoned, aged bricks dating back to the 1700's, I began to think of Gone with the Wind. Could it be that the cultural influences driving these, Rhett was careful to say he doesnt think these apologists are intentionally deceiving anyone. Jen's post about leaving Mythical! And so as I processed Rhett & Links stories I found 5 takeaways to suggest maybe they hadnt abandoned Jesus as much as their (many) critics suggest: When Jesus called his disciples he simply said, Follow Me. They were also Christians, former missionaries, and Campus Crusade (now Cru) staff members. No, these lads loved Jesus. Mark Spence, a Christian, discusses some controversial subjects with a couple, and they leave once he brings up one topic in particular. As a creative team, Rhett and Link have consistently pushed their limits instead of sticking to their comfort zone, a fact that has helped them immensely. Thats worse than a house of cards. Are you sure about that? I was crushed. When I was 11, I only had the opportunity to see Ricky Schroder once a week. I was recently at a conference where a prominent Christian leader was asked to give his opinion on what good could come from a Biden America and Continue reading, How are Christians supposed to think about Game of Thrones? Through the deal, Mythical has expanded its busine They began their career as engineers and ended up in the field of comedy. Leaving aside the irony of that accusation, I would simply say, as I always do, that certainty is the currency of fundamentalism. Since Rhett and Link were relatively deep into religiosity, having learned "Christianese" and the culture, it took them years to complete their pilgrimage to secularism. Cotton Candy Randy is a Mythical character created by Rhett & Link on their daily show, Good Mythical Morning. In a church culture where those lines are increasingly blurred, their clarity is refreshing. As an apologist, my knee-jerk reaction was also to grab my computer and start typing refutations with the force of a thousand suns. I also appreciate him making a point of clarifying that bad experiences didnt push him out of the faith. I think Postman was on to something when he wrote, WhatOrwell feared were those who would ban books. Over the course of a few days, social-media newsfeeds became inundated with hot takes, responses, disagreements, and praise for the comedy duo. But as Christians we should be encouraged to remember that for every Rhett and Link, theres a Lee Strobel, a J. Warner Wallace, a Holly Ordway, a C. S. Lewis, and a Rosaria Butterfield who tested their beliefs against the evidence, and found their atheism wanting. It doesnt really matter if it never reaches its destination. But the same timeworn skepticism the church has interacted with since its inception is given a fresh dose of potency when delivered to a whole new generation by cool and funny guys whove become a fixture of their childhood. Rhett and Link already know theyll be accused of being arrogant. The youth-group kids left flustered and agitated by doubt mightve been entirely unperturbed had they heard those arguments from another source. suggestion that their moving to Los Angeles was just the slippery slope to How would it affect their revenue streams and net worth to remain faithful Christians in todays cultural climate? That, though, didnt ease their concerns over how much emphasis Rhett and Link seem to be putting on their feelings. I dont blame them. Rhett echoed that hes more interested in what happens during his life on earth: , Its not so much what happens after you die, but what happens while youre alive., Paul wrote in 2 Corinthians 2:1416 that through his missionary work, Christ spreads the fragrance of the knowledge of himself. more Christ-like now that they no longer see themselves as Christians. Let me help you out here. Good Mythical Morning Net worth- $30 Million. Bingo! Once you've listened to that track a certain number of times, it's clear that you don't own it but would like to. With every hit of the like button, the personalities weve subscribed to have become our authorities for truth. For Rhett, it started with questions relating to science, the age of the earth, and evolution. I did not have a personal tragedybut I was angry at the thinkers. Both Goins-Phillips and Andros commended the comedy duo for their willingness to talk so transparently about what is sure to have been a difficult and challenging process. For exmaple, you decide you're hooked on a song. They no longer identify as Christians so it is not judgmental to refer to them this way.) Their response has been very interesting; they have lamented this by retorting something like . These apostles of unbelief are on a mission to help others deconstruct with the same evangelistic zeal they learned from their previous tribe. 4:10). personally know that jettison God altogether during their deconstruction often become Demas traded eternal hope for earthly treasure. But I dont think its the actual arguments themselves people have found so persuasive. How is my marriage going to stay together? ButIm more interested now in what I do when I LIVE.because the only thing that I know that Ive got is this life. That said, I sympathize even more with the ones who follow their own consciences out of the fold, in time being accused of every impure motive imaginable. What he learned in time was that history disconfirms pretty much every major story from the flood of Noah all the way down through the Conquest of Canaan by the Israelites, with things not much improving for the next several books. God draws people to Jesus, He saves them, and He doesnt lose any of them. Its not like hes throwing out the baby with the bathwater, its like hes throwing out the tub and trying to keep the baby and the bathwater intact. I kind of saw Christianity as this boat in a very stormy sea. I read here a lot more than I comment, but Neil was ", "Then the LORD said to Hosea, Gomer conceived again and gave birth to a daughter. fear that if they stopped believing in this Link Neal. By the way, Evolutionary theory doesnt have a sufficient cause for the universe coming into existence out of nothing. (Tim Challies reviewed the book once upon a time.) If you want Continue reading, Origin of Manhood: Every Man is a Theologian. Evolution by natural selection seemed intolerably non-intuitiveit didnt make any senseand it struck him as a desperate and unsuccessful attempt to explain how a world like ours could come into being without an intelligent designer. and Asian Christians, and Pacific Islander Christians you soon realize the Christy Neal: Link's wife. Rather, he foretold, people will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities to think, pointing to Aldous Huxleys satirical Brave New World. 1:24; Col. 4:14). admit in the podcast that moving to L.A. did free them of some constraints that Then he skillfully planted a possible motive: money. Rhett & Link are entertainers who primarily use the Internet to display their talents. He is still living as if he has value, that there is a purpose to his life and the lives of his family, that there is a standard of morality that people should follow, and that it matters how someone chooses to live their lives. Aside from the fact that most apologists have day jobs, this leads to a fair question: what would, stand to lose if they didnt capitulate to culture on an issue like same-sex marriage? This is something Jesus himself said would happenand it will continue to happen until he returns (Matt. After poking holes in Christianity, Rhett offered no plausible alternative to explain reality. Before February 2020 I had never heard of Rhett McLaughlin and Link Neal. Around the time I was nursing a wounded ego for being stood up by the Ricky Schroder fan club, Neil Postman made a prediction in his 1985 book, Amusing Ourselves to Death. So Rhett got hung up on the way that one pair of chromosomes looks (okay?. Get resources, podcast episodes, and SWO updates sent directly to your inbox. The Gospel Coalition supports the church by providing resources that are trusted and timely, winsome and wise, and centered on the gospel of Jesus Christ. Goins-Phillips, in response, pointed out that Christianity has been around for 2,000 years and remains the worlds largest religion, so it has withstood challenges and investigations. How Is God Loving if He Allows Suffering. their abandoning their faith. Rhett said, , to believe [Christianity], then why would I? Link expressed, Why was I working so hard to make Christianity work for me if it wasnt even true? Aside from encountering intellectual stumbling blocks, it seems that, to YouTubes favorite pair, the gospel had begun to stink. After abandoning a Young Earth view of the cosmos, Rhett wrestled next with the historicity of the rest of the Old Testament (the stuff about Jesus would have to wait till later). She Leaves Once This Christian Brings Up This Topic. Giza Theme by Pixel Object, G.O.P. Listening to both Rhetts and Links stories, you can feel how much pushback they anticipate encountering from people who love them. Rhett and Links deconstruction journey frequently mentioned the struggle they felt as they began to hold long held beliefs to the fire. But I dont think its the actual, people have found so persuasive. Link asked, Why on airplanes? to which Rhett replied: Because when youre an evangelical Christian, when you sit next to a stranger, this may be the only opportunity you have to share the life changing message of Jesus with them. Could it be that the cultural influences driving these deconstruction stories needs to be re-examined, rather than Christianity itself? Melanie then asks for coffee and sandwiches. Ill interact the most with Rhetts extimony as it covered the lions share of their reasons for leaving the faith. Rhett seems really reluctant to talk about it, so Scarlett doesn't ask more questions. Please make sure all fields are filled out. Like in biological puberty where one begins to form an adult identity separate from their parents and begin to wrestle with the understanding that the world is much more complex and nuanced than originally thought. Overtime these add on requirements of belief become so ingrained with ones Christian faith that when you begin to question them your whole Christian identity feels under threat. She had a pretty nose, little girl's eyes, but her lips gave everything away. Thats humanism in a nutshell, and I feel the same way. Childers has recently become the go to apologist for Evangelicals who go astray having flirted with deconstruction herself but then (whew) successfully managed to pull herself back from the postmodern abyss. Thats a messy situation. It's easy Christianity-it left Jesus out a long time ago. None of this is brand new; its been around for years and years and years.. And if you like what you read on Godless in Dixie, please consider sponsoring me on Patreon, or else you can give via Paypal to help me keep doing what Im doing. And when I jumped ship, I didnt jump to another boat. avenge the attack on Scarlett that day. Careers Workplace and Religion Columnists, Recreation Outdoors and Religion Columnists, Religious Music and Entertainment Columnists, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Would. This was so convenient because the gift card is digital and gets sent right to your email! Take Rhett, for example. First, I am right in the middle of teaching an Apologetics course for the Snowbird Institute, so my mind is already focused on reasons to believe in God. ), but he cant escape the fact that he is an image-bearer of God, living in Gods world. I didnt have the opportunity to open my laptop (they didnt yet exist) or turn on our home computer (we didnt own one), hop on YouTube, and watch my future husband walk me through his breakfast choices, morning drive, and whimsical musings. often suggest the real reason is so they can succumb to a life of sin, I find Before this week I did not, and now that I think about it, it explains A LOT. Just like always, our biggest mistake was thatwe did as we were told. They never talk about if it's morally wrong, but rather the person expressing who they think they are and who they think they love. Ive heard these things described dozens of times by now, but never before by guys I know my still-believing daughters have been watching for years. And I pulled my wife and my children with me. Later in Pauls ministry, however, he writes that Demas ended up loving the present world more than the things of God and walked away (2 Tim. I have a love-hate relationship with Thanksgiving Day. Its stable. (Except for a short hiatus after The Karate Kid, when Ralph Macchio was my all in all for a few months.) After all, remember, we are talking about nothing. Most recently, of course, is the story of well-known pastor and author Joshua Harris, as well as the Youtube comedians Rhett and Link.. I've written on this phenomenon myself in a number of places, including my recent book, The 10 Commandments of Progressive Christianity, as well as my my article, "The . Gone with the Wind as Bildungsroman or Why Did Rhett Butler Really Leave Scarlett O'Hara? However, when they got to the point where they turned the corner away from the God of the Bible, our paths split and my heart broke. Theres a lot of other people on it. Christians today must be ready to provide a compelling defense for Christand even play some offenseas we demonstrate an alternative story to deconversion. If youre new to Godless In Dixie, be sure to check out The Beginners Guide for 200+ links categorized topically on a single page. These are great questions that Christians have been asking for years. But as Christians we should be encouraged to remember that for every Rhett and Link, theres a Lee Strobel, a J. Warner Wallace, a Holly Ordway, a C. S. Lewis, and a Rosaria Butterfield who tested their beliefs against the evidence, and found their atheism wanting. your local one size fits all faith is THE faithwell, youre going to be in Demas traded eternal hope for earthly treasure. I Work for a Pastor with Low Emotional Intelligence, Split or Stay? SUBSCRIBE to Faithwires (free) YouTube channel. Im almost sure I said those same words at some point in my journey. I mean we have little finite minds and we are trying to understand an infinite God. Of course, I had never looked at the evidence for evolution. 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